Victionarium:Taberna

Adde sententiam

Project namespace

Why is the project namespace (with the yellow background) for this still Wikipedia: ? —Mycēs 17:18 mai 1, 2004 (UTC)

Apparently it's been fixed to the default Wiktionary:. Is this something we'll stick with, or will a sysop change it to Victionarium: ? Are there any sysops here yet? —Mycēs 05:00 mai 8, 2004 (UTC)

Template for new pages

Template for new pages? I guess Victionarium:Exemplum is it; will there be more detail on it soon? Robin Patterson 06:40 mai 5, 2004 (UTC)

What I put at Exemplum is basically a translation of the template on the English wiktionary. (Not very good, my latinization skills are so-so.) If anyone wants to contribute to perhaps making a better format, now would be the time to edit Exemplum with suggestions. —Mycēs 23:58 mai 5, 2004 (UTC)

Salve! Will we have a table of conjugation and so on in our entries? German Wikiwoelterbuch goes so. Or is it a field more appropriate to the WikiBook? KIZU 12:28 mai 19, 2004 (UTC)

Totae paginae

Until we get too many pages for the system to handle, it can't hurt to have a few more direct links to at least one functional "Totae paginae" rather than having potential contributors put off by going to the "Paginae speciales" and hitting "Totae paginae (ex indice)" then being taken to http://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Specialis:Allpages - which is quite capable of being blank apart from the message we will need when we get BIG:

"Pardono! Iste functionalitate es temporarimente inactivate durante horas de grande affluentia de accessos pro motivo de performance; retorna inter 02:00 e 14:00 UTC e tenta de nove.

Here's a saved copy from 05:54 mai 18, 2004:"

I know people can reach the list (currently 20 "symboles" plus five other pages) directly from Pagina prima by hitting "Verba ab littera initiali: A" - but that's a trifle obscure (and ought not to give a list from A to W anyway).
Now what about that second row of letter-links following "Verba incipiunt cum litteris aliis" - are they real or imaginary? Several (maybe most) of them lead to an empty page called "Totae paginae".
MAYBE some sysop has all of that in mind and just hasn't completed all the necessary fiddles. Leave the above (for those of us who want another way to inspect progress) until resolved, perhaps!

Kind regards - Patrifilius 06:16 mai 18, 2004 (UTC)

I don't know about how to get Specialis:Totae paginae working, but the second row of letters is those from other scripts, which are ordered after A-Z. Once people start adding Latin definitions of Greek, Russian, Japanese, etc. words then those pages will show results. The whole construct is imported directly from the English Wiktionary, where clicking "Quick jump to words beginning with: A" has enough that it will only show A through Abrader. la: won't reach that for awhile, though. I've replaced the box with just a working link to Totae paginae for now. —Mycēs 17:14 mai 18, 2004 (UTC)

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Breves

Ordinarily I wouldn't prefer to put breves in the headwords. But given that this is a wiki, and much of the information we get may be incomplete, maybe it might be a good idea to use breves to show “yes, this vowel is short, and not just unmarked” ? I can add them to the box below the edit box if we go with that. It'll also help us more honestly add words where vowel quantity is uncertain (such as some neologisms).

Egomet non praefero ponere signa brevia in lemmatibus. Wiki tamen est, et multus qui recipiemur non completus erit; fortasse prudens sit ut brevibus uti ut docere “ita, haec vocalis est brevis, nec solummodo sine apice” ? Capsae sub recensione addere possum, si volumus. Etiam adiutabilis erit in addere verba cuius quantitas vocalis incerta est (e.g. nonnulla novicia).

—Myces Tiberinus 14:48 nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

Sure. Why not?

As long as I don't have to add them to Japanese transliterations;) --Vladisdead 14:50 nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

Lang Marking

I've realized that we may need to mark the language words are in for the browser to render them properly. Most language will cope fine being processed as "la" but CJK characters display differently depending on the language. However, tags aren't allowed in wikitext (see [1]) and <div> tags are inappropriate. How's this to be done? --Vladisdead 10:40 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

If it's really necessary, a kludge could be used. For example for Template:furi I used a <b> (bold) tag, and then stripped it of boldness with CSS. —Myces Tiberinus 15:34 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

Hmm. I guess we could just go with something like <font lang="xx"></font>, then? --Vladisdead 16:24 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

Anything that might be wrong with that, before I go and stick on every entry? ☺ --Vladisdead 17:17 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

How about an example of the differences we're talking here? Is the difference of rendering supposed to occur for every character, most characters, some characters, or what? —Myces Tiberinus 18:01 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

Well, they're generally only minor differences, AFAIK, but occur for a fair few characters (eg if one radical is different, all the characters using that radical will be, too). Characters displayed incorrectly are still legible, but ideally they can be displayed in the proper fonts. It's not überimportant, but it would be good. --Vladisdead 18:21 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

CJK-using langs aren't the only ones, too - some languages differ as to whether to use a caron or an apostrophe for characters with ascenders, and things like that. Nothing that would be illegible, but each language would prefer to be displayed in its own style. --Vladisdead 18:38 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

All right — BTW, are any browsers smart enough to do this yet? Or is this just noding for the ages? —Myces Tiberinus 23:36 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

Well, mine (Firefox) is. And I suspect the latest version of IE is too, if the font support is set up. --Vladisdead 02:01 nov 23, 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I checked it in Firefox shortly after posting; the zh 鼻 displayed in a different font than the ja 鼻. Either Opera can't do that yet, or I set it up with the wrong fonts, not being prepared for the intricacies of East Asian typography (I suspect the former though). —Myces Tiberinus 05:31 nov 23, 2004 (UTC)

Latin words in all UPPERCASE

Salve. Over on English wiktionary, some guy has started to convert some Latin language entries to all UPPERCASE. There is a discussion in the Beer Parlor (entry with same name as this). If anyone has any thoughts, they might like to express them there. Thanks. 62.252.64.16 16:33 iul 18, 2005 (UTC) (SemperBlotto)

Vicilibri Latina

I've come from the Latin Wikibooks, which is in a shambles. I've been made administrator there until July 31, and I'm trying to fix it up as best I can. There is a huge amount of work to be done, but it is possible. If you are so inclined please come and help! -b:Usor:Dbmag9

Pagina experimentalis

Does such a page exist here? --Roland2 18:04, 31 Maii 2006 (UTC)

Victionarium:Harenarium. —Myces Tiberinus 21:57, 31 Maii 2006 (UTC)

Word frequencies

Are there such lists in the Victionarium? I have found a list of the 1000 most frequent German words. See my user page ([2]). --Roland2 07:05, 5 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Victionarium:Dictiones in Project Gutenberg per frequentiam is all we have so far, I think. —Myces Tiberinus 22:59, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Order of nom. - gen. - dat. - acc.

In Zähre we have the cases in an order which I learnt in school: nom. - gen. - dat. - acc. The order in Mauerraute is very strange to me: nom. - acc. - gen. - dat. The cases have alternate names: "1. Fall", "2. Fall", "3. Fall", "4. Fall" which correspond to nom. - gen. - dat. - acc. Is the order in Mauerraute an error or are there reasons? --Roland2 20:43, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

The cases should be given in the order normal to their language. I am not a native German speaker, so the table I put in Formula:de-declinatio-4f (which appears in Mauerraute) is in the wrong, I suppose, and probably needs to be edited. —Myces Tiberinus 22:57, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, now that I look into it, the Latin cases were numbered as well—and apparently in the same way as the German: casus primus (nominative), casus secundus (genitive), casus tertius (dative), casus quartus (accusative), casus quintus (vocative), casus sextus (ablative). The first five seem to be inherited from Greek, with Latin's ablative tacked onto the end. —Myces Tiberinus 00:48, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

I like it ... that's the order I know from school. :-) See http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio:Declinatio_Prima --Roland2 12:32, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, but it is a surprise to me, as my Latin textbooks do not present them in this order! The grammar at Perseus is similar to this, but puts the vocative sixth; my dead-trees grammar gives them in the order I have made the declension tables in (presumably as it has the advantage of putting similar-appearing forms together). In User:Mycēs/la-declinatio, though, which I am currently working on, I have fixed it to the normal order. Incidentally I was able to find some references to the locative as the seventh case. (And also a few others to seventh and eighth cases being conjectures of imaginative grammarians...) —Myces Tiberinus 14:01, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

In [3] I provided a link to http://culturitalia.uibk.ac.at/hispanoteca/Lexikon%20der%20Linguistik/k/KASUS%20%20%20Caso.htm and guessed it seems that the order I have in mind is just used when the focus is on Latin. If someone is talking more general, other orderings are used --Roland2 14:12, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Logo Discussion

There is a logo discussion going on for Wiktionary at meta:Wiktionary/logo. Please contribute. Dbmag9 19:02, 12 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

unicodigum simbolaque extranea?

Cur habet wictionarium latinum simbolum √ et ceteram? (Et vobis rogo quod mihi perdonetis meam latinam malam) –72.66.71.216 17:45, 27 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

Vide Auxilium:Abbreviationes#Symboli. —Myces Tiberinus 22:26, 27 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

metior

Habemusne formulam pro verbis sicut "metior". Solum "eloquor" inveni, quod non valet ad "metior" introducendum propter ii-effectus.

Etiam patior, loquor, morior, mercor, metor non inveni. Alex1011 20:34, 19 Augusti 2006 (UTC)

Non, caremus Formula:coniugatio-4-dep, Formula:coniugatio-3io-dep, Formula:coniugatio-2-dep, etc. Potes eas facere. —Myces Tiberinus 22:28, 19 Augusti 2006 (UTC)

formula pro metior

Formulas Formula:XXX et Formula:YYY feci pro metior, sed nescio quo nomine formulae nominandae sunt:

Radix praesens loqu-
Praesens indicativum
dep.	sing.	plur.
I.	loquor	loquimur
II.	loqueris	loquiminī
III.	loquitur	loquuntur
Imperativus
dep.	loquere	loquiminī
Imperativus futurus
II.	loquitor	—
III.	loquitor	loquuntor
Praesens subiunctivum
dep.	sing.	plur.
I.	loquar	loquāmur
II.	loquāris	loquāminī
III.	loquātur	loquantur
Imperfectum indicativum
dep.	sing.	plur.
I.	loquēbar	loquēbāmur
II.	loquēbāris	loquēbāminī
III.	loquēbātur	loquēbantur
Imperfectum subiunctivum
dep.	sing.	plur.
I.	loquerer	loquerēmur
II.	loquerēris	loquerēminī
III.	loquerētur	loquerentur
Futurum indicativum
dep.	sing.	plur.
I.	loquar	loquēmur
II.	loquēris (-re)	loquēminī
III.	loquētur	loquentur

Infinitivi act. dep. praes. — loquī perf. — locutus (-a, -um) esse

Participia praes. loquens, -entis perf. locutus, -a, -um fut. locutūrus, -a, -um

Gerundia et supina subst. loquendum, -ī adiect. loquendus, -a, -um supina locutum, locutū

Alex1011 11:48, 25 Septembris 2006 (UTC)

Conventum prospere aperitur est

Haec sententia corrigenda est. --Alex1011 20:28, 18 Novembris 2006 (UTC)

Formula:delenda

Is there a "delete"-template in Victionarium? Eg. Wikcionario‎ should be deleted, I guess, but what can I do about it? --81.197.12.28 16:30, 3 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

There is no delete template yet. It's been low-traffic enough that we pretty much see everything at least within a day of it coming in. It may come to that sometime, tho, and if you'd like to make Formula:delenda (or whatever) feel free. —Myces Tiberinus 00:21, 4 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

Red Links

What can be done with all of the red links in any conjugation or declension template? Should they all redirect back to the original, or should they all link to separate articles?

For example:

          Habemus, 1st person plural of habeo.  (This would be in Lingua Latina, of course)

If so, I can help do that.

--Freiberg, Let's talk!, contribs 01:01, 23 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

Procurator Cynegii

Is the translation Procurer of Dogs ??

Wikipedia

I tried a bunch of different Latin dictionaries and translators on the Internet without any luck. 65.94.115.87 01:28, 24 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)

"Procurare" is "to procure" in Italian, and a similar word exists in Spanish. These being romance languages, the most likely root is a Latin 1st conjugation verb, id est Procuro, Procurare, Procuravi, Procuratus. For now, I'll give you Procurator Canis. It looks right...curator being a derivative if the pro is dropped. I'll look into it further later. --68.98.162.253 21:00, 11 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

They weren't looking for a translation of 'procurer of dogs'— they were looking for what w:en:Procurator Cynegii meant (apparently it is not well described in the context it appears, but even if they were a procurer of dogs, that's not what the phrase actually means... cynegium is the hunt, not dogs). This person posted their question in a few places—I answered it at Talk:Pagina prima#Procurator_Cynegii. —Myces Tiberinus 22:52, 12 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

Pars Principalis Prima

Are the entries of verbs supposed to use the first principal part? And, if so, should the others redirect there? --68.98.162.253 20:51, 11 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

Verbs in general are to be placed under the normal dictionary form for their language. Thus first principal part in Latin and Greek, infinitive in Romance, third person in Arabic, etc. The other parts should not be redirects; use the ==Formae affines== header to link back to the dictionary form (an example of how it works, although with a noun instead of a verb, is at bello). Redirects are not good because a word may exist in more than one language (like your 'procurare') — the only places redirects are good as far as I can tell is between upper-case and lower-case forms (e.g. cupido and Cupido) because it is normal to expect case to fold. —Myces Tiberinus 22:52, 12 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

Translationes terminologiae grammaticae

I need some translations in order to make Finnish conjugation templates or tables. It's hard to find translations for these, though the translations can propably be formed easily... I just wanted to make sure I get the "official" translations.

So, how would you translate conditional and potential? They are both moods. --PeeKoo 13:18, 2 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Well, mood is modus (I'm sure you already knew that) ... and both condicionalis and potentialis see use in the one Latin grammar of a foreign language that I know of [4]. (Well, he spells it conditionalis but Lewis and Short seem to prefer the condic- forms...) —Mucius Tever 01:06, 3 Maii 2007 (UTC)

According to my dictionary, conditio means making jam, condicio means (among other things) condition, so I'll go with condic-, too ;). Gratias. --PeeKoo 16:09, 3 Maii 2007 (UTC)

affines/derivatae

Are the terms

• formae affines
• dictiones derivatae
• locutiones
• collocationes
• exempla
• usus

somewhere explained? (If not, I think we need some explanation.) --Alex1011 19:33, 9 Maii 2007 (UTC)

The top-level heading "Formae affines" is for listing words with the same spelling as the page title that have main entries elsewhere (e.g. because it is an inflected, Romanized, abbreviated, or alternate spelling form linking to the main entry, or because it is disambiguated) — also if the words only differ by placement of diacritics. The English wiktionary uses a 'See also:' line at the top of its entries for this purpose (see, e.g. at, the, etc.)

The second-level headings ("dictiones derivatae" and "usus") are in described in Victionarium:Exemplum (template for Latin entry) and/or Victionarium:Exemplum lemmatis alieni (template for non-Latin entry) -- linked off the front page.

'Collocation' is a technical term for what are essentially set phrases: words that normally occur together. (The Wikipedia article explains it better than I can offhand, though there are better definitions.)

'Exempla' I have been using for editorial examples. Not famous examples, i.e. quotes, which go under Loci -- but just short sentences made up on the spot to illustrate some grammatical property of how the word is used. (Generally use this if there is more to show than what the usual single example under the definition line can do.)

'Locutiones' I haven't seen, tho I think I might have used 'Locutio' ages ago as a part-of-speech heading translating the idea of "phrase". —Mucius Tever 01:13, 10 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Red links

Should we link to words that are already in vitionario or simply to forms of words which then need an extra entry. That is: usu or usu (the latter is of course more tedious work)? And: Links already in definitions or only in affines and loci etc. --Alex1011 09:22, 10 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Link to the headword if you can. (Sometimes you can't, like in words you don't know the dictionary form to.) I think the expectation is that someone clicking on a word wants to see a full entry... and if utor is doing its job with inflection tables it should indicate what 'usu' is. That doesn't mean usu can't have its "affinis" reference to utor — just that it's not priority. (IIRC the English wiktionary has a similar priority... though I think they eventually set up a bot to do lines for inflected forms.) —Mucius Tever 10:11, 10 Maii 2007 (UTC)

capital vs. miniscule letters

I have tampered with sto in a way, that it still appears as "sto" in the alphabetical list, but appears in the headline not as "Sto" but as "sto". Isn't that better than the old solution of "Sto"? --Alex1011 12:34, 13 Maii 2007 (UTC)

What? Sort (from language templates like Template:-la-), title (in the caput template), and page name (as used in the wiki database post-decapitalization) are three different animals.

• Sorts are capitalized per normal case-folding rules (A and a should sort together, and A being primary should get the section headings).
• Titles are capitalized per universal text formatting rules: titles should be in title case. The caput template is the place where the correct titlecase form of a word is displayed. There are words whose title-case begins with a lower-case letter (bIQ, xirma, pH, etc.), but "Sto" is the title-case form of sto, not "sto". [pH is at the moment a bad example because it hasn't got {caput} put on it yet.]
• Page names appear as lowercase or uppercase due to hasty implementation of a "feature" that some people thought might be useful but was pushed on wiktionaries that didnt want it or weren't ready for it. Because of it (bugzilla:5075) we put in sorts and titles manually (and other Wiktionaries go with unmixed categories and poorly-formatted titles). —Mucius Tever 02:20, 14 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Ad administratorem

There are a couple of things that should be fixed in MediaWiki:Uploadtext. (Red=problem, green=proposed solution.)

<strong>SISTERE!</strong> Ante hic oneras, lege et pare 
[[Wiktionary:Image_use_policy|consilias de Wiktionary de uso imaginum]].
<p>Ut videre aut quaerere imagines oneratas antea,
adi [[Special:Imagelist|indicem imaginum oneratae]].
Onerata et deleta in [[Wiktionary:Upload_log|notationem oneratorum]] notata sunt.
<p>Utere formam subter onerare fasciculos novos.
Capsam desginare debes qui verba privata non uteris.
Preme "Onerare" pro onerate incipere.
<p>Formae antipositae sunt: JPEG pro imaginibus, PNG pro simulacris, et OGG pro sonis.
Nomina descriptiva utere, ut confusiones evitare.
Pro imaginem in rebus includere, nexum <b>[[Image:file.jpg]]</b> aut
<b>[[image:file.png|verba alterna]]</b>, aut <b>[[media:file.ogg]]</b> pro sonis utere.

--PeeKoo 08:59, 6 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT

Alex1011 has used this kind of a tool when categorising pages: {{DEFAULTSORT:Complexus mercatorius}}. Maybe this code should be added in Formula:caput, like this: <includeonly>{{DEFAULTSORT:{{{2}}}}}</includeonly>, so that categorsing in all pages would be sorted automatically by capital letter. Or is there a reason for not doing so?

Of course, the title of a page doesn't always correspond to the sort key... The real sort key is in Formula:-la- and other such templates. Is there a solution to this? (See also, w:en:Template:DEFAULTSORT.) --PeeKoo 12:36, 10 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki

Dear community. I am writing to you to promote a special wiki called Betawiki. This wiki facilitates the localisation (l10n) of the MediaWiki interface. You may have changed many messages here to use your language in the interface, but if you would log in to for example the Japanese language Wiktionary, you would not be able to use the interface as well translated as here. In fact, of over 1,700 messages in the core of MediaWiki, 1030 messages have been translated. Betawiki also supports the translation of messages for well over 100 extensions, with over 1,550 messages. Translators for over 70 languages contribute their work to MediaWiki this way every month.

If you wish to contribute to better support of your language in MediaWiki, as well as for many MediaWiki extensions, please visit Betawiki, create an account and request translator privileges. You can see the current status of localisation of your language on MediaWiki.org and do not forget to get in touch with others that may already be working on your language on Betawiki.

If you have any further questions, please let me know on my talk page on Betawiki. We will try and assist you as much as possible, for example by importing all messages from a local wiki for you to start with, if you so desire.

You can also find us on the Freenode IRC network in the channel #mediawiki-i18n where we would be happy to help you get started.

Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Cheers! Siebrand@Betawiki 16:44, 13 Decembris 2007 (UTC)

Word order

Salvete!

Do we have a special word order for homonyms (I mean, an order in which the different meanings of the same-looking words are put)? I am asking this because I would like to write an article about "laniger". My dictionary says that there are two meanings:

1. "wearing" wool (an adjective)
2. animal that does so = sheep, lamb

So shall I put the adjective or the substantive first?

I thank you in advance for your efforts! --Abmf 19:30, 29 Martii 2008 (UTC)

Just like you have in your explanation—the substantive use is derived from the adjective, so the adjective goes first. And 'laniger' in this case is not a homonym but just a word with two senses. Homonyms, words requiring totally different entries, would be unrelated words like jus, or os. 'Laniger' could probably even get away with using the same part of speech header. —Mucius Tever 10:35, 30 Martii 2008 (UTC)

Pages for inflected forms?

All the Wiktionaries that I know have extra pages for inflected forms of substantives, verbs, ... (see for example [5] from the English Wiktionary). As far as I have seen, we don't have this for our Latin Wiktionary, however. I think this would be very utile, though, because hardly any language has as many different inflexions as Latin.

Somebody who only has an inflected form in a text can then consult our Wiktionary by using only this form and will, over the page of the form, be led to the basic form and its meaning.

I think, however, that if we start with such pages, we should have a good uniform scheme for all of them. I would suggest (for the page "lanae"):

(a "caput" containing "Lanae")

(an indication that this section is about the Latin word)

(an indication that it is a substantive)

(an indication that this is an inflected form)

• gen. sg. verbi lana
• dat. sg. verbi lana
• nom. pl. verbi lana
• voc. pl. verbi lana

Does anybody have better ideas about the design of the pages? I followed the German Wiktionary ([6]). I would be equally grateful if somebody could tell me which formula is used for the "inflected form" indication. Thanks in advance! --Abmf 07:13, 9 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

We've had this intention since the beginning, it's just that very few such pages have been produced. This is (one of the things) the 'Formae affines' header is for, and examples of the format are at belli, manatus, Maria, virtute, etc. Basically it is to be a one-line summary of the inflection, its language, and a link to the full entry. Besides inflections, "Formae affines" is also used for Romanized forms (lǎo, ito), abbreviations (D.D., Ag), alternate spellings (γενή, murra), forms with the same spelling but differing in diacritical marks or capitalization (o, τις), forms with the same spelling being disambiguated from the Latin entry (lawrencium, delphinus), or in general any other place where a form which is not the headword form needs to refer back to the main entry. —Mucius Tever 10:20, 9 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thanks a lot! --Abmf 16:44, 9 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

Requested entries

I've seen that many other Wiktionaries also offer this service.

Registrated users as well as short-term visitors can add to the list of words that do not exist in the Wiktionary yet and which they consider important. Why not introduce something like this for our Wiktionary, too? It can work as a kind of "aid to orientation" which paginae to create next - without any obligation or necessity, of course! What do you think? --Abmf 17:24, 24 Maii 2008 (UTC)

Index dictionum absentium

I'm now creating the list of important Latin entries that we don't have yet. Please visit my user page. --Abmf 17:41, 28 Maii 2008 (UTC)

The list should be complete now. If you want to add something else, feel free to do so! --Abmf 17:44, 21 Iunii 2008 (UTC)

Victionarium:Bots

Hello, please could You take a look, thanks, --Spacebirdy 22:52, 18 Iunii 2008 (UTC)

script for wiktionaries

Hi, sorry for English. Currently, there is a script which gives a definition of a word by double-clic. First developed for fr.wikinews, it's a javascript code. The italian version will be able in some days or weeks. You could see the script in action on fr:n:Special:Random for example. This code use the interface language for gives the definitions: preference in english, definitions from en.wiktionary; french -> fr.wiktionary... on the french wiktionary this code is use as a gadget: fr:Spécial:Préférences then select the Gadgets tab and click on Permet d’obtenir par double clic la définition d’un mot dans le Wiktionnaire. or the experimental last one. Related links:

• en:n:MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js
• en:n:MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js/how_to_adapt_to_another_language
• [7]

externals links:

• Bawolff blog's
• Francogallice Otourly's blog

All we need is a translation of:

• © Victionarium. Released under CC-BY-SA 3.0
• Error:
•  » More
•  » Create
• Could not retrieve definition of $1.

This request have a global interest; all projects could have the definitions from Victionarium. Let's see commons:User:Otourly/hover.

Regards, Otourly 20:18, 20 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

Before, you can test individually the English version on this site, by copying my User:JackPotte/monobook.js into yours. JackPotte 17:49, 21 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

excess?=

Hi guys, How would you say "from excess to excess" or a surfeit? in Latin? Ex abudante abudante? Please correct me if I am wrong. 41.240.92.237 16:03, 27 Februarii 2010 (UTC)

Ex abuntia ad abuntiam. Note that classicist tend to remove the "ad", thus you would see more often as "Ex abuntia abuntiam".--Jondel 05:29, 1 Martii 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't think you'd see that at all ... chiefly because I'm not sure "abuntia" is a normal Latin word. Abundantia, maybe. 'De abundantia in abundantiam' is probably the phrase (and that wording is attested in John Calvin). It might depend on what sort of excess you mean, though. —Mucius Tever 23:14, 3 Martii 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks I think the last is the phrase I was looking for. 41.240.77.112 19:30, 6 Martii 2010 (UTC)

Wikimania Scholarships

The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. To apply, visit the Wikimania 2010 scholarships information page, click the secure link available there, and fill out the form to apply. For additional information, please visit the Scholarships information and FAQ pages:

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Soft redirects

Greetings. Is there a rule on the Latin Wiktionary against making a soft redirect from one's user page? I see you have no such template, and when I tried to do it by hand (ie. redirect my userpage to my page at meta), someone told me it's not allowed here. I'm only an occasional contributor and thought that it would be better to point people to a page I tend to check more often than my page here. Thanks, Jafeluv 17:34, 16 Maii 2010 (UTC)

There's no explicit rule, no. But then, we hardly have any new users, so I don't think the issue's particularly come up before, either. —Mucius Tever 02:31, 17 Maii 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's been used here before,^[1][2] and it's a common way for people who do a lot of crosswiki work to avoid having to create userpages on every wiki they edit. I can't see why it's considered a problem here. Jafeluv 14:28, 18 Maii 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I know that. Like I said, there's no rule against it. I don't know why he would have thought it was a problem, either; I don't read much Russian and Google Translate isn't really getting his reasoning across. Anyway, he's not an admin and as a contributor he's apparently not examining the information he's been adding en masse; so he isn't bringing much weight to his advice. If you just want a soft redirect, that's fine. —Mucius Tever 23:16, 19 Maii 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Jafeluv 11:41, 20 Maii 2010 (UTC)

2010 Fundraising Is Almost Here

Hello Wikipedians, my name is Kelly and I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation during the 2010 Fundraiser. My job is to be the liaison between the Latina community and the Foundation. This year's fundraiser is intended to be a collaborative and global effort; we recognize that banner messages which may perform well in the United States don't necessarily translate well, or appeal to international audiences.

I'm contacting you as I am currently looking for translators who are willing to contribute to this project by helping translate and localize messages into Latina and suggesting messages that would appeal to Latina readers on the Fundraising Meta Page. We've started the setup on meta for both banner submission, statistical analysis, and grouping volunteers together.
Use the talk pages on meta, talk to your local communities, talk to others, talk to us, and add your feedback to the proposed messages as well! I look forward to working with you during this year's fundraiser. If someone could translate this message I would really appreciate it so that everyone is able to understand our goals and contribute to this year's campaign. Thanks!Klyman 17:53, 20 Octobris 2010 (UTC)

The name of K

Hello. I am very sorry for not being able to speak Latin. I have a question on the name of K. Most of the books I have checked say the Latin name of K is kā, but Le latin sans peine (written in French) says it is kappa just like Greek. Did K have two names in Latin? Do you think it is a reliable source of information? — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 01:11, 21 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

I believe ka is the usual name. Does Le latin sans peine cite evidence for its assertion? I can see how it might be possible; perhaps, taking the opinion of someone like Isidore who wrote Omnia autem Graeca nomina qualicumque sequente vocali per K sunt scribenda, "All Greek words should be written with K, whichever vowel follows it," someone might take that to mean K was a foreign letter that thus kept its foreign name — but I've never seen that opinion held elsewhere. Neither 'kappa' nor 'cappa' appear to be in Lewis & Short (though koppa is, [8]). —Mucius Tever 05:06, 22 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your answer. It seems to me to be a consensus here that K be read ka. — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 07:18, 25 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

Apostrophe

Another question. I have found you use the Unicode apostrophe ’ instead of the ASCII apostrophe ' in I’m, Rome wasn’t built in a day, and wasn’t. Is that intentional? As far as I know, only French Wiktionary uses the former, and we have an interwiki problem (see the table in my page). — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 01:11, 21 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think there are bigger interwiki problems than apostrophe if you are looking for all pages to have the same title. I don't think many other Wiktionaries use disambiguation pages, either. The apostrophe is intentional, and there ought to be redirects from the ' versions to the ’ versions. —Mucius Tever 05:20, 22 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

We French Wiktionarians first tried to have interwiki links with different titles (such as ’ for '), but finally we have accepted the de facto same-title rule (vigorously maintained by User:Interwicket). We had no other choice, because the English version works as a pivot of interwiki links. Several other language versions rejected our solution (namely Frisian, Dutch, and Limburgish: see fr:Utilisateur:TAKASUGI Shinji#Interwikis et redirections). You have the same problem as ours. — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 07:40, 25 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

§

Ahoy, I'm new here to Victionarium (not to wikis though). I'm currently trying to figure out the structure of the wiki, but all these category names with the section sign (§) in them and the fact that the category names have "Exempla" in them are confusing me, so my question is, why are a lot of the categories like this at the moment?

-CeNobiteElf 15:16, 22 Maii 2011 (UTC)

The § categories were meant to be those meta-categories that are relevant to Victionarium itself and the editing thereof (as opposed to categorization of the lemmas themselves). There are a few exceptions that have not been updated to use this convention yet—in particular, I believe Categoria:§ Exempla inflexionis came first but some editors have been using Categoria:Formulae declinationum etc. sans § instead.

'Exemplum' is one thing templates were called before namespaces had translations. (The Template: namespace was translated to 'Formula:' due to a consensus at Vicipaedia, I believe.) I seem to remember at one point trying to make 'exempla' the generic form and 'formula' specifically for those templates that took parameters or otherwise needed to be filled in (but I don't think this was ever very rigorously done, or officially instituted). —Mucius Tever 01:08, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok, are there any plans to actually fully update these categories and fix the structure, ie merge the categories, get rid of redundancies, etc.? Victionarium is relatively small at the moment, gonna be a bigger problem when it reaches higher number of pages and templates...

-CeNobiteElf 10:40, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)

Eventually, I'm sure. My own work here is pretty slow, due to juggling time with other projects. —Mucius Tever 22:56, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)

Call for image filter referendum

The Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.

Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.

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Terms of Use update

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Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is discussing changes to its Terms of Use. The discussion can be found at Talk:Terms of use. Everyone is invited to join in. Because the new version of Terms of use is not in final form, we are not able to present official translations of it. Volunteers are welcome to translate it, as German volunteers have done at m:Terms of use/de, but we ask that you note at the top that the translation is unofficial and may become outdated as the English version is changed. The translation request can be found at m:Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use 2 -- Maggie Dennis, Community Liaison 01:02, 27 Octobris 2011 (UTC)

Open Call for 2012 Wikimedia Fellowship Applicants

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The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking Community Fellows and project ideas for the Community Fellowship Program. A Fellowship is a temporary position at the Wikimedia Foundation in order to work on a specific project or set of projects. Submissions for 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia projects. If interested, please submit a project idea or apply to be a fellow by January 15, 2012. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships for more information.

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Announcing Wikipedia 1.19 beta

Wikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the WMF-hosted wikis. As we finish wrapping up our code review, you can test the new version right now on beta.wmflabs.org. For more information, please read the release notes or the start of the final announcement.

The following are the areas that you will probably be most interested in:

• Faster loading of javascript files makes dependency tracking more important.
• New common*.css files usable by skins instead of having to copy piles of generic styles from MonoBook or Vector's css.
• The default user signature now contains a talk link in addition to the user link.
• Searching blocked usernames in block log is now clearer.
• Better timezone recognition in user preferences.
• Improved diff readability for colorblind people.
• The interwiki links table can now be accessed also when the interwiki cache is used (used in the API and the Interwiki extension).
• More gender support (for instance in logs and user lists).
• Language converter improved, e.g. it now works depending on the page content language.
• Time and number-formatting magic words also now depend on the page content language.
• Bidirectional support further improved after 1.18.

Report any problems on the labs beta wiki and we'll work to address them before they software is released to the production wikis.

Note that this cluster does have SUL but it is not integrated with SUL in production, so you'll need to create another account. You should avoid using the same password as you use here. — Global message delivery 16:21, 15 Ianuarii 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.19

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to upgrade MediaWiki (the software powering this wiki) to its latest version this month. You can help to test it before it is enabled, to avoid disruption and breakage. More information is available in the full announcement. Thank you for your understanding.

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Update on IPv6

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The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to do limited testing of IPv6 on June 2-3. If there are not too many problems, we may fully enable IPv6 on World IPv6 day (June 6), and keep it enabled.

What this means for your project:

• At least on June 2-3, 2012, you may see a small number of edits from IPv6 addresses, which are in the form "2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334". See e.g. w:en:IPv6 address. These addresses should behave like any other IP address: You can leave messages on their talk pages; you can track their contributions; you can block them. (See the full version of this announcement for notes on range blocks.)

• In the mid term, some user scripts and tools will need to be adapted for IPv6.

• We suspect that IPv6 usage is going to be very low initially, meaning that abuse should be manageable, and we will assist in the monitoring of the situation.

Read the full version of this announcement on how to test the behavior of IPv6 with various tools and how to leave bug reports, and to find a fuller analysis of the implications of the IPv6 migration.

--Erik Möller, VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation 01:10, 2 Iunii 2012 (UTC)

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2011 Picture of the Year competition

македонски • norsk bokmål • polski

Dear Wikimedians,

Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2011 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We are interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year 2011. Any user registered at Commons or a Wikimedia wiki SUL-related to Commons with more than 75 edits before 1 April 2012 (UTC) is welcome to vote and, of course everyone is welcome to view!

Detailed information about the contest can be found at the introductory page.

About 600 of the best of Wikimedia Common's photos, animations, movies and graphics were chosen –by the international Wikimedia Commons community– out of 12 million files during 2011 and are now called Featured Pictures.

From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons Features Pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.

We regret that you receive this message in English; we intended to use banners to notify you in your native language but there was both, human and technical resistance.

See you on Commons! --Picture of the Year 2011 Committee 18:28, 5 Iunii 2012 (UTC)

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Mobile view as default view coming soon

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The mobile view of this project and others will soon become the default view on mobile devices (except tablets). Some language versions of these projects currently show no content on the mobile home page, and it is a good time to do a little formatting so users get a mobile-friendly view, or to add to existing mobile content if some already exists.

If you are an administrator, please consider helping with this change. There are instructions which are being translated. The proposed date of switching the default view is June 21.

To contact the mobile team, email mobile-feedback-llists.wikimedia.org.

--Phil Inje Chang, Product Manager, Mobile, Wikimedia Foundation 08:32, 16 Iunii 2012 (UTC)

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Mobile Victionarium

Mobile Victionarium ad androide, Google Store. Latine nondum loquitur.

Help decide about more than $10 million of Wikimedia donations in the coming year

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Hi,

As many of you are aware, the Wikimedia Board of Trustees recently initiated important changes in the way that money is being distributed within the Wikimedia movement. As part of this, a new community-led "Funds Dissemination Committee" (FDC) is currently being set up. Already in 2012-13, its recommendations will guide the decisions about the distribution of over 10 million US dollars among the Foundation, chapters and other eligible entities.

Now, seven capable, knowledgeable and trustworthy community members are sought to volunteer on the initial Funds Dissemination Committee. It is expected to take up its work in September. In addition, a community member is sought to be the Ombudsperson for the FDC process. If you are interested in joining the committee, read the call for volunteers. Nominations are planned to close on August 15.

--Anasuya Sengupta, Director of Global Learning and Grantmaking, Wikimedia Foundation 20:14, 19 Iulii 2012 (UTC)

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Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program

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The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.

If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)

Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)02:03, 6 Septembris 2012 (UTC)

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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out

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As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.

The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:

1. language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
2. infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
3. lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)

It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.

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Upcoming software changes - please report any problems

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All Wikimedia wikis - including this one - will soon be upgraded with new and possibly disruptive code. This process starts today and finishes on October 24 (see the upgrade schedule & code details).

Please watch for problems with:

• revision diffs
• templates
• CSS and JavaScript pages (like user scripts)
• bots
• PDF export
• images, video, and sound, especially scaling sizes
• the CologneBlue skin

If you notice any problems, please report problems at our defect tracker site. You can test for possible problems at test2.wikipedia.org and mediawiki.org, which have already been updated.

Thanks! With your help we can find problems fast and get them fixed faster.

Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 03:03, 16 Octobris 2012 (UTC)

P.S.: For the regular, smaller MediaWiki updates every two weeks, please watch this schedule.

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Fundraising localization: volunteers from outside the USA needed

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Hello All,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Fundraising team have begun our 'User Experience' project, with the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries outside the USA and enhancing the localization of our donation pages. I am searching for volunteers to spend 30 minutes on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real-time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. Please sing up and help us with our 'User Experience' project! :) If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!

Thanks!
Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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Be a Wikimedia fundraising "User Experience" volunteer!

Thank you to everyone who volunteered last year on the Wikimedia fundraising 'User Experience' project. We have talked to many different people in different countries and their feedback has helped us immensely in restructuring our pages. If you haven't heard of it yet, the 'User Experience' project has the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries (outside the USA) and enhancing the localization of our donation pages.

I am (still) searching for volunteers to spend some time on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. **All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be very low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)**

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!!

Thanks!

Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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Wikimedia sites to move to primary data center in Ashburn, Virginia. Read-only mode expected.

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) Next week, the Wikimedia Foundation will transition its main technical operations to a new data center in Ashburn, Virginia, USA. This is intended to improve the technical performance and reliability of all Wikimedia sites, including this wiki. There will be some times when the site will be in read-only mode, and there may be full outages; the current target windows for the migration are January 22nd, 23rd and 24th, 2013, from 17:00 to 01:00 UTC (see other timezones on timeanddate.com). More information is available in the full announcement.

If you would like to stay informed of future technical upgrades, consider becoming a Tech ambassador and joining the ambassadors mailing list. You will be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

Thank you for your help and your understanding.

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Help turn ideas into grants in the new IdeaLab

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• Do you have an idea for a project to improve this community or website?
• Do you think you could complete your idea if only you had some funding?
• Do you want to help other people turn their ideas into project plans or grant proposals?

Please join us in the IdeaLab, an incubator for project ideas and Individual Engagement Grant proposals.

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking new ideas and proposals for Individual Engagement Grants. These grants fund individuals or small groups to complete projects that help improve this community. If interested, please submit a completed proposal by February 15, 2013. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG for more information.

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 20:37, 30 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)

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Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful

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Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.

If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.

If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

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Proposal of a pronunciation recording tool

Hello, Rahul21, a developer, offers to develop a pronunciation recording tool for Wiktionary, helped by Michael Dale as part of GSoC. The tool would allow to record and add audio pronunciations to Wiktionary entries while browsing them (see background discussion on Wiktionary-l). Please read and comment the proposal! Regards, Nemo 22:40, 9 Aprilis 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment on inactive administrators

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Hello!

There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.

We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.

All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.

Thanks, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 04:57, 24 Aprilis 2013 (UTC)

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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming

Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.

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[en] Change to section edit links

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.

Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.

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Latest Tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes.

Recent software changes

(Not all changes will affect you.)

• The latest version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf4) was added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 13, and to the English Wikipedia (with a Wikidata software update) on May 20. It will be updated on all other Wikipedia sites on May 22. [9] [10]
• A software update will perhaps result in temporary issues with images. Please report any problems you notice. [11]
• MediaWiki recognizes links in twelve new schemes. Users can now link to SSH, XMPP and Bitcoin directly from wikicode. [12]
• VisualEditor was added to all content namespaces on mediawiki.org on May 20. [13]
• A new extension ("TemplateData") was added to all Wikipedia sites on May 20. It will allow a future version of VisualEditor to edit templates. [14]
• New sites: Greek Wikivoyage and Venetian Wiktionary joined the Wikimedia family last week; the total number of project wikis is now 794. [15] [16]
• The logo of 18 Wikipedias was changed to version 2.0 in a third group of updates. [17]
• The UploadWizard on Commons now shows links to the old upload form in 55 languages (bug 33513). [18]

Future software changes

• The next version of MediaWiki (version 1.22/wmf5) will be added to Wikimedia sites starting on May 27. [19]
• An updated version of Notifications, with new features and fewer bugs, will be added to the English Wikipedia on May 23. [20]
• The final version of the "single user login" (which allows people to use the same username on different Wikimedia wikis) is moved to August 2013. The software will automatically rename some usernames. [21]
• A new discussion system for MediaWiki, called "Flow", is under development. Wikimedia designers need your help to inform other users, test the prototype and discuss the interface. [22].
• The Wikimedia Foundation is hiring people to act as links between software developers and users for VisualEditor. [23]

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Trademark discussion

Hi, apologies for posting this in English, but I wanted to alert your community to a discussion on Meta about potential changes to the Wikimedia Trademark Policy. Please translate this statement if you can. We hope that you will all participate in the discussion; we also welcome translations of the legal team’s statement into as many languages as possible and encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please see the Trademark practices discussion (on Meta-Wiki) for more information. Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF) (talk)

X!'s Edit Counter

(Sorry for writing in English. You can translate the proposal.)

Should X!'s edit counter retain the opt-in requirement? Your input is strongly encouraged. Voice your input here.——cyberpower ^Chat_Automation 04:43, 23 Iunii 2013 (UTC)

Distributed via Global message delivery. (Wrong page? Fix here.)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled on 2013-07-09

On July 9, 2013, Universal Language Selector (ULS) will be enabled on this wiki. The ULS provides a flexible way to configure and deliver language settings like interface language, fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). Making it available here is the last phase of making ULS available on all Wikimedia wikis.

Please read the announcement on Meta-Wiki for more information. Siebrand 12:41, 4 Iulii 2013 (UTC) (via Global message delivery).

Pywikipedia is migrating to git

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 13:29, 23 Iulii 2013 (UTC)

HTTPS for users with an account

Greetings. Starting on August 21 (tomorrow), all users with an account will be using HTTPS to access Wikimedia sites. HTTPS brings better security and improves your privacy. More information is available at m:HTTPS.

If HTTPS causes problems for you, tell us on bugzilla, on IRC (in the #wikimedia-operations channel) or on meta. If you can't use the other methods, you can also send an e-mail to https@wikimedia.org.

Greg Grossmeier (via the Global message delivery system). 19:22, 20 Augusti 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)

Request for consultation on community logo

Request for consultation on this community logo

First, I’d like to apologize for the English. If you can, please help to translate this for other members of your community.

The legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation would greatly appreciate your input on the best way to manage the "community logo" (pictured here) to best balance protection of the projects with community support. Accordingly, they have created a “request for consultation” on Meta where they set out briefly some of the issues to be considered and the options that they perceive. Your input would be invaluable in helping guide them in how best to serve our mission.

Thank you! --Mdennis (talk) (via the Global message delivery system). 02:48, 24 Septembris 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)

Notifications

Notifications inform you of new activity that affects you -- and let you take quick action.

(This message is in English, please translate as needed)

Greetings!

Notifications will inform users about new activity that affects them on this wiki in a unified way: for example, this new tool will let you know when you have new talk page messages, edit reverts, mentions or links -- and is designed to augment (rather than replace) the watchlist. The Wikimedia Foundation's editor engagement team developed this tool (code-named 'Echo') earlier this year, to help users contribute more productively to MediaWiki projects.

We're now getting ready to bring Notifications to almost all other Wikimedia sites, and are aiming for a 22 October deployment, as outlined in this release plan. It is important that notifications is translated for all of the languages we serve.

There are three major points of translation needed to be either done or checked:

• Echo on translatewiki for user interface - you must have an account on translatewiki to translate
• Thanks on translatewiki for user interface - you must have an account on translatewiki to translate
• Notifications help on mediawiki.org. This page can be hosted after translation on mediawiki.org or we can localize it to this Wikipedia. You do not have to have an account to translate on mediawiki, but single-user login will create it for you there if you follow the link.

• Checklist

Please let us know if you have any questions, suggestions or comments about this new tool. For more information, visit this project hub and this help page. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:53, 4 Octobris 2013 (UTC)

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Speak up about the trademark registration of the Community logo.

Hi all,

Please join the consultation about the Community logo that represents Meta-Wiki: m:Community Logo/Request for consultation.

This community consultation was commenced on September 24. The following day, two individuals filed a legal opposition against the registration of the Community logo.

The question is whether the Wikimedia Foundation should seek a collective membership mark with respect to this logo or abandon its registration and protection of the trademark.

We want to make sure that everyone get a chance to speak up so that we can get clear direction from the community. We would therefore really appreciate the community's help in translating this announcement from English so that everyone is able to understand it.

Thanks, Geoff & Yana 20:28, 8 Octobris 2013 (UTC)

Introducting Beta Features

(Apologies for writing in English. Please translate if necessary)

We would like to let you know about Beta Features, a new program from the Wikimedia Foundation that lets you try out new features before they are released for everyone.

Think of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview upcoming software and give feedback to help improve them. This special preference page lets designers and engineers experiment with new features on a broad scale, but in a way that's not disruptive.

Beta Features is now ready for testing on MediaWiki.org. It will also be released on Wikimedia Commons and MetaWiki this Thursday, 7 November. Based on test results, the plan is to release it on all wikis worldwide on 21 November, 2013.

Here are the first features you can test this week:

• Media Viewer — view images in large size or full screen
• VisualEditor Formulæ (for wikis with VisualEditor) — edit algebra or equations on your pages
• Typography Refresh — make text more readable (coming Thursday)

Would you like to try out Beta Features now? After you log in on MediaWiki.org, a small 'Beta' link will appear next to your 'Preferences'. Click on it to see features you can test, check the ones you want, then click 'Save'. Learn more on the Beta Features page.

After you've tested Beta Features, please let the developers know what you think on this discussion page -- or report any bugs here on Bugzilla. You're also welcome to join this IRC office hours chat on Friday, 8 November at 18:30 UTC.

Beta Features was developed by the Wikimedia Foundation's Design, Multimedia and VisualEditor teams. Along with other developers, they will be adding new features to this experimental program every few weeks. They are very grateful to all the community members who helped create this project — and look forward to many more productive collaborations in the future.

Enjoy, and don't forget to let developers know what you think! Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:15, 5 Novembris 2013 (UTC)

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Call for comments on draft trademark policy

Hi all,

The Wikimedia legal team invites you to participate in the development of the new Wikimedia trademark policy.

The current trademark policy was introduced in 2009 to protect the Wikimedia marks. We are now updating this policy to better balance permissive use of the marks with the legal requirements for preserving them for the community. The new draft trademark policy is ready for your review here, and we encourage you to discuss it here.

We would appreciate if someone would translate this message into your language so more members of your community can contribute to the conversation.

Thanks,
Yana & Geoff

Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?

I apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.

The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.

Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.

We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.

Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.

All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.

You are also welcome to join tomorrow's Office hours chat on IRC, this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members.

We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:47, 16 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC)

Est delendam:

https://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Natural_Organic_Comfrey_Poultice_For_All_Types_of_Hernias.7926874

--Alex1011 (disputatio) 14:10, 6 Februarii 2014 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

Amendment to the Terms of Use

Hello all,

Please join a discussion about a proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use regarding undisclosed paid editing and we encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please translate this statement if you can, and we welcome you to translate the proposed amendment and introduction. Please see the discussion on Meta Wiki for more information. Thank you! Slaporte (WMF) 22:00, 21 Februarii 2014 (UTC)

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Victionarium better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

• Organizing social media for Chinese Wikipedia ($350 for materials)
• Improving gadgets for Visual Editor ($4500 for developers)
• Coordinating access to reliable sources for Wikipedians ($7500 for project management, consultants and materials)
• Building community and strategy for Wikisource (€10000 for organizing and travel)

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 19:44, 28 Februarii 2014 (UTC)

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 21:56, 13 Martii 2014 (UTC)

Changes to the default site typography coming soon

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

• April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
• April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

• Summary of changes and FAQ
• Discussion page for feedback or questions
• Post on blog.wikimedia.org

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

Pronunciation Recording

 

Visual workflow draft for pronunciation recording gadget; If you have trouble watching this video here, watch it on vimeo. A more extensive/explanative version is available.

Dear Wiktionary community!

About me

My name is Rainer Rillke, and I have been volunteering at Wikimedia Commons for 3 years now, gathering experience around media files. I've been always interested in how things work and how one could improve them.

The idea

One idea that appeared last Summer was allowing the recording of small chunks of speech, uploading that to Wikimedia Commons in the background and including this into a Wiktionary entry without having the hassle doing everything by hand or installing additional software. That idea led to the foundation of MediaWiki extension PronunciationRecording during the Google Summer of Code. However, this was not completed; instead development is stale for over 5 months now.

My proposal

To make this going to work, so Wiktionary has an immediate benefit of this feature, I would like to provide the work done so far as a gadget and add some more work in regard to usability. You can see my plan at m:Grants:IEG/Finish Pronunciation Recording. And more importantly, you can give me a hand, if you are interested by writing your comments.

Thanks and kind regards --Rillke (disputatio) 17:25, 7 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)

This message was delivered based on commons:User:Rillke/gmd/prg. Translation fetched from: commons:User:Rillke/prg/en -- Rillke^(q?) 17:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)