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Project namespace[+/-]

Why is the project namespace (with the yellow background) for this still Wikipedia: ? —Mycēs 17:18 mai 1, 2004 (UTC)

Apparently it's been fixed to the default Wiktionary:. Is this something we'll stick with, or will a sysop change it to Victionarium: ? Are there any sysops here yet? —Mycēs 05:00 mai 8, 2004 (UTC)

Template for new pages[+/-]

Template for new pages? I guess Victionarium:Exemplum is it; will there be more detail on it soon? Robin Patterson 06:40 mai 5, 2004 (UTC)

What I put at Exemplum is basically a translation of the template on the English wiktionary. (Not very good, my latinization skills are so-so.) If anyone wants to contribute to perhaps making a better format, now would be the time to edit Exemplum with suggestions. —Mycēs 23:58 mai 5, 2004 (UTC)
Salve! Will we have a table of conjugation and so on in our entries? German Wikiwoelterbuch goes so. Or is it a field more appropriate to the WikiBook? KIZU 12:28 mai 19, 2004 (UTC)

Totae paginae[+/-]

Until we get too many pages for the system to handle, it can't hurt to have a few more direct links to at least one functional "Totae paginae" rather than having potential contributors put off by going to the "Paginae speciales" and hitting "Totae paginae (ex indice)" then being taken to - which is quite capable of being blank apart from the message we will need when we get BIG:

"Pardono! Iste functionalitate es temporarimente inactivate durante horas de grande affluentia de accessos pro motivo de performance; retorna inter 02:00 e 14:00 UTC e tenta de nove.

Here's a saved copy from 05:54 mai 18, 2004:"

I know people can reach the list (currently 20 "symboles" plus five other pages) directly from Pagina prima by hitting "Verba ab littera initiali: A" - but that's a trifle obscure (and ought not to give a list from A to W anyway).
Now what about that second row of letter-links following "Verba incipiunt cum litteris aliis" - are they real or imaginary? Several (maybe most) of them lead to an empty page called "Totae paginae".
MAYBE some sysop has all of that in mind and just hasn't completed all the necessary fiddles. Leave the above (for those of us who want another way to inspect progress) until resolved, perhaps!

Kind regards - Patrifilius 06:16 mai 18, 2004 (UTC)

I don't know about how to get Specialis:Totae paginae working, but the second row of letters is those from other scripts, which are ordered after A-Z. Once people start adding Latin definitions of Greek, Russian, Japanese, etc. words then those pages will show results. The whole construct is imported directly from the English Wiktionary, where clicking "Quick jump to words beginning with: A" has enough that it will only show A through Abrader. la: won't reach that for awhile, though. I've replaced the box with just a working link to Totae paginae for now. —Mycēs 17:14 mai 18, 2004 (UTC)


Ordinarily I wouldn't prefer to put breves in the headwords. But given that this is a wiki, and much of the information we get may be incomplete, maybe it might be a good idea to use breves to show “yes, this vowel is short, and not just unmarked” ? I can add them to the box below the edit box if we go with that.

It'll also help us more honestly add words where vowel quantity is uncertain (such as some neologisms).

Egomet non praefero ponere signa brevia in lemmatibus. Wiki tamen est, et multus qui recipiemur non completus erit; fortasse prudens sit ut brevibus uti ut docere “ita, haec vocalis est brevis, nec solummodo sine apice” ? Capsae sub recensione addere possum, si volumus.

Etiam adiutabilis erit in addere verba cuius quantitas vocalis incerta est (e.g. nonnulla novicia).

Myces Tiberinus 14:48 nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

Sure. Why not?
As long as I don't have to add them to Japanese transliterations;) --Vladisdead 14:50 nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

Lang Marking[+/-]

I've realized that we may need to mark the language words are in for the browser to render them properly. Most language will cope fine being processed as "la" but CJK characters display differently depending on the language. However, tags aren't allowed in wikitext (see [1]) and <div> tags are inappropriate. How's this to be done? --Vladisdead 10:40 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

If it's really necessary, a kludge could be used. For example for Template:furi I used a <b> (bold) tag, and then stripped it of boldness with CSS. —Myces Tiberinus 15:34 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
Hmm. I guess we could just go with something like <font lang="xx"></font>, then? --Vladisdead 16:24 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
Anything that might be wrong with that, before I go and stick on every entry? ☺ --Vladisdead 17:17 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

How about an example of the differences we're talking here? Is the difference of rendering supposed to occur for every character, most characters, some characters, or what? —Myces Tiberinus 18:01 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
Well, they're generally only minor differences, AFAIK, but occur for a fair few characters (eg if one radical is different, all the characters using that radical will be, too). Characters displayed incorrectly are still legible, but ideally they can be displayed in the proper fonts. It's not überimportant, but it would be good. --Vladisdead 18:21 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
CJK-using langs aren't the only ones, too - some languages differ as to whether to use a caron or an apostrophe for characters with ascenders, and things like that. Nothing that would be illegible, but each language would prefer to be displayed in its own style. --Vladisdead 18:38 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
All right — BTW, are any browsers smart enough to do this yet? Or is this just noding for the ages? —Myces Tiberinus 23:36 nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
Well, mine (Firefox) is. And I suspect the latest version of IE is too, if the font support is set up. --Vladisdead 02:01 nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, I checked it in Firefox shortly after posting; the zh displayed in a different font than the ja . Either Opera can't do that yet, or I set it up with the wrong fonts, not being prepared for the intricacies of East Asian typography (I suspect the former though). —Myces Tiberinus 05:31 nov 23, 2004 (UTC)

Latin words in all UPPERCASE[+/-]

Salve. Over on English wiktionary, some guy has started to convert some Latin language entries to all UPPERCASE. There is a discussion in the Beer Parlor (entry with same name as this). If anyone has any thoughts, they might like to express them there. Thanks. 16:33 iul 18, 2005 (UTC) (SemperBlotto)

Vicilibri Latina[+/-]

I've come from the Latin Wikibooks, which is in a shambles. I've been made administrator there until July 31, and I'm trying to fix it up as best I can. There is a huge amount of work to be done, but it is possible. If you are so inclined please come and help! -b:Usor:Dbmag9

Pagina experimentalis[+/-]

Does such a page exist here? --Roland2 18:04, 31 Maii 2006 (UTC)

Victionarium:Harenarium. —Myces Tiberinus 21:57, 31 Maii 2006 (UTC)

Word frequencies[+/-]

Are there such lists in the Victionarium? I have found a list of the 1000 most frequent German words. See my user page ([2]). --Roland2 07:05, 5 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Victionarium:Dictiones in Project Gutenberg per frequentiam is all we have so far, I think. —Myces Tiberinus 22:59, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Order of nom. - gen. - dat. - acc.[+/-]

In Zähre we have the cases in an order which I learnt in school: nom. - gen. - dat. - acc. The order in Mauerraute is very strange to me: nom. - acc. - gen. - dat. The cases have alternate names: "1. Fall", "2. Fall", "3. Fall", "4. Fall" which correspond to nom. - gen. - dat. - acc. Is the order in Mauerraute an error or are there reasons? --Roland2 20:43, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

The cases should be given in the order normal to their language. I am not a native German speaker, so the table I put in Formula:de-declinatio-4f (which appears in Mauerraute) is in the wrong, I suppose, and probably needs to be edited. —Myces Tiberinus 22:57, 6 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, now that I look into it, the Latin cases were numbered as well—and apparently in the same way as the German: casus primus (nominative), casus secundus (genitive), casus tertius (dative), casus quartus (accusative), casus quintus (vocative), casus sextus (ablative). The first five seem to be inherited from Greek, with Latin's ablative tacked onto the end. —Myces Tiberinus 00:48, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

I like it ... that's the order I know from school. :-) See --Roland2 12:32, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
Hehe, but it is a surprise to me, as my Latin textbooks do not present them in this order! The grammar at Perseus is similar to this, but puts the vocative sixth; my dead-trees grammar gives them in the order I have made the declension tables in (presumably as it has the advantage of putting similar-appearing forms together). In User:Mycēs/la-declinatio, though, which I am currently working on, I have fixed it to the normal order. Incidentally I was able to find some references to the locative as the seventh case. (And also a few others to seventh and eighth cases being conjectures of imaginative grammarians...) —Myces Tiberinus 14:01, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
In [3] I provided a link to and guessed it seems that the order I have in mind is just used when the focus is on Latin. If someone is talking more general, other orderings are used --Roland2 14:12, 9 Iunii 2006 (UTC)
  • German: nom., gen., dat., acc. - 1. Fall, 2. Fall, 3. Fall, 4. Fall. Old Grammaticans also added abl. and voc. to German declension, but that's not present anymore. (Though for dated declension of Latin words included in German one maybe has to add them.)
  • Latin: There are two way of ordering the Latin casûs: nom., gen., dat., acc., abl., voc OR nom., gen., dat., acc., voc., abl.; i.e. voc. or abl. either as 5th or 6th casus. nom., voc., acc., gen., dat. abl. is totally unusual, but a) there's no discussion about what's 5th and what's 6th case (voc. or abl.) and b) it's ordered by similarity (voc. is usually like or similar to nom., in Latin). But not sure if that's a good decision as it's irritating as it's unusual.

- 18:28, 8 Novembris 2014 (UTC)

unicodigum simbolaque extranea?[+/-]

Cur habet wictionarium latinum simbolum √ et ceteram? (Et vobis rogo quod mihi perdonetis meam latinam malam) – 17:45, 27 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

Vide Auxilium:Abbreviationes#Symboli. —Myces Tiberinus 22:26, 27 Iulii 2006 (UTC)


Habemusne formulam pro verbis sicut "metior". Solum "eloquor" inveni, quod non valet ad "metior" introducendum propter ii-effectus.

Etiam patior, loquor, morior, mercor, metor non inveni. Alex1011 20:34, 19 Augusti 2006 (UTC)

Non, caremus Formula:coniugatio-4-dep, Formula:coniugatio-3io-dep, Formula:coniugatio-2-dep, etc. Potes eas facere. —Myces Tiberinus 22:28, 19 Augusti 2006 (UTC)

formula pro metior[+/-]

Formulas Formula:XXX et Formula:YYY feci pro metior, sed nescio quo nomine formulae nominandae sunt:

Radix praesens loqu-
Praesens indicativum
dep. sing. plur.
I. loquor loquimur
II. loqueris loquiminī
III. loquitur loquuntur
dep. loquere loquiminī
Imperativus futurus
II. loquitor
III. loquitor loquuntor
Praesens subiunctivum
dep. sing. plur.
I. loquar loquāmur
II. loquāris loquāminī
III. loquātur loquantur
Imperfectum indicativum
dep. sing. plur.
I. loquēbar loquēbāmur
II. loquēbāris loquēbāminī
III. loquēbātur loquēbantur
Imperfectum subiunctivum
dep. sing. plur.
I. loquerer loquerēmur
II. loquerēris loquerēminī
III. loquerētur loquerentur
Futurum indicativum
dep. sing. plur.
I. loquar loquēmur
II. loquēris (-re) loquēminī
III. loquētur loquentur
act. dep.
praes. loquī
perf. locutus (-a, -um) esse
praes. loquens, -entis
perf. locutus, -a, -um
fut. locutūrus, -a, -um
Gerundia et supina
subst. loquendum, -ī
adiect. loquendus, -a, -um
supina locutum, locutū

Alex1011 11:48, 25 Septembris 2006 (UTC)

Conventum prospere aperitur est[+/-]

Haec sententia corrigenda est. --Alex1011 20:28, 18 Novembris 2006 (UTC)


Is there a "delete"-template in Victionarium? Eg. Wikcionario‎ should be deleted, I guess, but what can I do about it? -- 16:30, 3 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

There is no delete template yet. It's been low-traffic enough that we pretty much see everything at least within a day of it coming in. It may come to that sometime, tho, and if you'd like to make Formula:delenda (or whatever) feel free. —Myces Tiberinus 00:21, 4 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

Red Links[+/-]

What can be done with all of the red links in any conjugation or declension template? Should they all redirect back to the original, or should they all link to separate articles?

For example:

          Habemus, 1st person plural of habeo.  (This would be in Lingua Latina, of course)

If so, I can help do that.

--Freiberg, Let's talk!, contribs 01:01, 23 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

Procurator Cynegii[+/-]

Is the translation Procurer of Dogs ??


I tried a bunch of different Latin dictionaries and translators on the Internet without any luck. 01:28, 24 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)

"Procurare" is "to procure" in Italian, and a similar word exists in Spanish. These being romance languages, the most likely root is a Latin 1st conjugation verb, id est Procuro, Procurare, Procuravi, Procuratus. For now, I'll give you Procurator Canis. It looks right...curator being a derivative if the pro is dropped. I'll look into it further later. -- 21:00, 11 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

They weren't looking for a translation of 'procurer of dogs'— they were looking for what w:en:Procurator Cynegii meant (apparently it is not well described in the context it appears, but even if they were a procurer of dogs, that's not what the phrase actually means... cynegium is the hunt, not dogs). This person posted their question in a few places—I answered it at Talk:Pagina prima#Procurator_Cynegii. —Myces Tiberinus 22:52, 12 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

Pars Principalis Prima[+/-]

Are the entries of verbs supposed to use the first principal part? And, if so, should the others redirect there? -- 20:51, 11 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

Verbs in general are to be placed under the normal dictionary form for their language. Thus first principal part in Latin and Greek, infinitive in Romance, third person in Arabic, etc. The other parts should not be redirects; use the ==Formae affines== header to link back to the dictionary form (an example of how it works, although with a noun instead of a verb, is at bello). Redirects are not good because a word may exist in more than one language (like your 'procurare') — the only places redirects are good as far as I can tell is between upper-case and lower-case forms (e.g. cupido and Cupido) because it is normal to expect case to fold. —Myces Tiberinus 22:52, 12 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

Translationes terminologiae grammaticae[+/-]

I need some translations in order to make Finnish conjugation templates or tables. It's hard to find translations for these, though the translations can propably be formed easily... I just wanted to make sure I get the "official" translations.

So, how would you translate conditional and potential? They are both moods. --PeeKoo 13:18, 2 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Well, mood is modus (I'm sure you already knew that) ... and both condicionalis and potentialis see use in the one Latin grammar of a foreign language that I know of [4]. (Well, he spells it conditionalis but Lewis and Short seem to prefer the condic- forms...) —Mucius Tever 01:06, 3 Maii 2007 (UTC)
According to my dictionary, conditio means making jam, condicio means (among other things) condition, so I'll go with condic-, too ;). Gratias. --PeeKoo 16:09, 3 Maii 2007 (UTC)


Are the terms

  • formae affines
  • dictiones derivatae
  • locutiones
  • collocationes
  • exempla
  • usus

somewhere explained? (If not, I think we need some explanation.) --Alex1011 19:33, 9 Maii 2007 (UTC)

The top-level heading "Formae affines" is for listing words with the same spelling as the page title that have main entries elsewhere (e.g. because it is an inflected, Romanized, abbreviated, or alternate spelling form linking to the main entry, or because it is disambiguated) — also if the words only differ by placement of diacritics. The English wiktionary uses a 'See also:' line at the top of its entries for this purpose (see, e.g. at, the, etc.)
The second-level headings ("dictiones derivatae" and "usus") are in described in Victionarium:Exemplum (template for Latin entry) and/or Victionarium:Exemplum lemmatis alieni (template for non-Latin entry) -- linked off the front page.
'Collocation' is a technical term for what are essentially set phrases: words that normally occur together. (The Wikipedia article explains it better than I can offhand, though there are better definitions.)
'Exempla' I have been using for editorial examples. Not famous examples, i.e. quotes, which go under Loci -- but just short sentences made up on the spot to illustrate some grammatical property of how the word is used. (Generally use this if there is more to show than what the usual single example under the definition line can do.)
'Locutiones' I haven't seen, tho I think I might have used 'Locutio' ages ago as a part-of-speech heading translating the idea of "phrase". —Mucius Tever 01:13, 10 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Red links[+/-]

Should we link to words that are already in vitionario or simply to forms of words which then need an extra entry. That is: usu or usu (the latter is of course more tedious work)? And: Links already in definitions or only in affines and loci etc. --Alex1011 09:22, 10 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Link to the headword if you can. (Sometimes you can't, like in words you don't know the dictionary form to.) I think the expectation is that someone clicking on a word wants to see a full entry... and if utor is doing its job with inflection tables it should indicate what 'usu' is. That doesn't mean usu can't have its "affinis" reference to utor — just that it's not priority. (IIRC the English wiktionary has a similar priority... though I think they eventually set up a bot to do lines for inflected forms.) —Mucius Tever 10:11, 10 Maii 2007 (UTC)

capital vs. miniscule letters[+/-]

I have tampered with sto in a way, that it still appears as "sto" in the alphabetical list, but appears in the headline not as "Sto" but as "sto". Isn't that better than the old solution of "Sto"? --Alex1011 12:34, 13 Maii 2007 (UTC)

What? Sort (from language templates like Template:-la-), title (in the caput template), and page name (as used in the wiki database post-decapitalization) are three different animals.
  • Sorts are capitalized per normal case-folding rules (A and a should sort together, and A being primary should get the section headings).
  • Titles are capitalized per universal text formatting rules: titles should be in title case. The caput template is the place where the correct titlecase form of a word is displayed. There are words whose title-case begins with a lower-case letter (bIQ, xirma, pH, etc.), but "Sto" is the title-case form of sto, not "sto". [pH is at the moment a bad example because it hasn't got {caput} put on it yet.]
  • Page names appear as lowercase or uppercase due to hasty implementation of a "feature" that some people thought might be useful but was pushed on wiktionaries that didnt want it or weren't ready for it. Because of it (bugzilla:5075) we put in sorts and titles manually (and other Wiktionaries go with unmixed categories and poorly-formatted titles). —Mucius Tever 02:20, 14 Maii 2007 (UTC)

Ad administratorem[+/-]

There are a couple of things that should be fixed in MediaWiki:Uploadtext. (Red=problem, green=proposed solution.)

<strong>SISTERE!</strong> Ante hic oneras, lege et pare 
[[Wiktionary:Image_use_policy|consilias de Wiktionary de uso imaginum]].
<p>Ut videre aut quaerere imagines oneratas antea,
adi [[Special:Imagelist|indicem imaginum oneratae]].
Onerata et deleta in [[Wiktionary:Upload_log|notationem oneratorum]] notata sunt.
<p>Utere formam subter onerare fasciculos novos.
Capsam desginare debes qui verba privata non uteris.
Preme "Onerare" pro onerate incipere.
<p>Formae antipositae sunt: JPEG pro imaginibus, PNG pro simulacris, et OGG pro sonis.
Nomina descriptiva utere, ut confusiones evitare.
Pro imaginem in rebus includere, nexum <b>[[Image:file.jpg]]</b> aut
<b>[[image:file.png|verba alterna]]</b>, aut <b>[[media:file.ogg]]</b> pro sonis utere.

--PeeKoo 08:59, 6 Augusti 2007 (UTC)


Alex1011 has used this kind of a tool when categorising pages: {{DEFAULTSORT:Complexus mercatorius}}. Maybe this code should be added in Formula:caput, like this: <includeonly>{{DEFAULTSORT:{{{2}}}}}</includeonly>, so that categorsing in all pages would be sorted automatically by capital letter. Or is there a reason for not doing so?

Of course, the title of a page doesn't always correspond to the sort key... The real sort key is in Formula:-la- and other such templates. Is there a solution to this? (See also, w:en:Template:DEFAULTSORT.) --PeeKoo 12:36, 10 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki[+/-]

Dear community. I am writing to you to promote a special wiki called Betawiki. This wiki facilitates the localisation (l10n) of the MediaWiki interface. You may have changed many messages here to use your language in the interface, but if you would log in to for example the Japanese language Wiktionary, you would not be able to use the interface as well translated as here. In fact, of over 1,700 messages in the core of MediaWiki, 1030 messages have been translated. Betawiki also supports the translation of messages for well over 100 extensions, with over 1,550 messages. Translators for over 70 languages contribute their work to MediaWiki this way every month.

If you wish to contribute to better support of your language in MediaWiki, as well as for many MediaWiki extensions, please visit Betawiki, create an account and request translator privileges. You can see the current status of localisation of your language on and do not forget to get in touch with others that may already be working on your language on Betawiki.

If you have any further questions, please let me know on my talk page on Betawiki. We will try and assist you as much as possible, for example by importing all messages from a local wiki for you to start with, if you so desire.

You can also find us on the Freenode IRC network in the channel #mediawiki-i18n where we would be happy to help you get started.

Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Cheers! Siebrand@Betawiki 16:44, 13 Decembris 2007 (UTC)

Word order[+/-]


Do we have a special word order for homonyms (I mean, an order in which the different meanings of the same-looking words are put)? I am asking this because I would like to write an article about "laniger". My dictionary says that there are two meanings:

  1. "wearing" wool (an adjective)
  2. animal that does so = sheep, lamb

So shall I put the adjective or the substantive first?

I thank you in advance for your efforts! --Abmf 19:30, 29 Martii 2008 (UTC)

Just like you have in your explanation—the substantive use is derived from the adjective, so the adjective goes first. And 'laniger' in this case is not a homonym but just a word with two senses. Homonyms, words requiring totally different entries, would be unrelated words like jus, or os. 'Laniger' could probably even get away with using the same part of speech header. —Mucius Tever 10:35, 30 Martii 2008 (UTC)

Pages for inflected forms?[+/-]

All the Wiktionaries that I know have extra pages for inflected forms of substantives, verbs, ... (see for example [5] from the English Wiktionary). As far as I have seen, we don't have this for our Latin Wiktionary, however. I think this would be very utile, though, because hardly any language has as many different inflexions as Latin.

Somebody who only has an inflected form in a text can then consult our Wiktionary by using only this form and will, over the page of the form, be led to the basic form and its meaning.

I think, however, that if we start with such pages, we should have a good uniform scheme for all of them. I would suggest (for the page "lanae"):

(a "caput" containing "Lanae")

(an indication that this section is about the Latin word)

(an indication that it is a substantive)

(an indication that this is an inflected form)

  • gen. sg. verbi lana
  • dat. sg. verbi lana
  • nom. pl. verbi lana
  • voc. pl. verbi lana

Does anybody have better ideas about the design of the pages? I followed the German Wiktionary ([6]). I would be equally grateful if somebody could tell me which formula is used for the "inflected form" indication. Thanks in advance! --Abmf 07:13, 9 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

We've had this intention since the beginning, it's just that very few such pages have been produced. This is (one of the things) the 'Formae affines' header is for, and examples of the format are at belli, manatus, Maria, virtute, etc. Basically it is to be a one-line summary of the inflection, its language, and a link to the full entry. Besides inflections, "Formae affines" is also used for Romanized forms (lǎo, ito), abbreviations (D.D., Ag), alternate spellings (γενή, murra), forms with the same spelling but differing in diacritical marks or capitalization (o, τις), forms with the same spelling being disambiguated from the Latin entry (lawrencium, delphinus), or in general any other place where a form which is not the headword form needs to refer back to the main entry. —Mucius Tever 10:20, 9 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thanks a lot! --Abmf 16:44, 9 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

Requested entries[+/-]

I've seen that many other Wiktionaries also offer this service.

Registrated users as well as short-term visitors can add to the list of words that do not exist in the Wiktionary yet and which they consider important. Why not introduce something like this for our Wiktionary, too? It can work as a kind of "aid to orientation" which paginae to create next - without any obligation or necessity, of course! What do you think? --Abmf 17:24, 24 Maii 2008 (UTC)

Index dictionum absentium[+/-]

I'm now creating the list of important Latin entries that we don't have yet. Please visit my user page. --Abmf 17:41, 28 Maii 2008 (UTC)

The list should be complete now. If you want to add something else, feel free to do so! --Abmf 17:44, 21 Iunii 2008 (UTC)


Hello, please could You take a look, thanks, --Spacebirdy 22:52, 18 Iunii 2008 (UTC)

script for wiktionaries[+/-]

Hi, sorry for English. Currently, there is a script which gives a definition of a word by double-clic. First developed for fr.wikinews, it's a javascript code. The italian version will be able in some days or weeks. You could see the script in action on fr:n:Special:Random for example. This code use the interface language for gives the definitions: preference in english, definitions from en.wiktionary; french -> fr.wiktionary... on the french wiktionary this code is use as a gadget: fr:Spécial:Préférences then select the Gadgets tab and click on Permet d’obtenir par double clic la définition d’un mot dans le Wiktionnaire. or the experimental last one. Related links:

externals links:

All we need is a translation of:

This request have a global interest; all projects could have the definitions from Victionarium. Let's see commons:User:Otourly/hover.

Regards, Otourly 20:18, 20 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

Before, you can test individually the English version on this site, by copying my User:JackPotte/monobook.js into yours. JackPotte 17:49, 21 Novembris 2009 (UTC)


Hi guys, How would you say "from excess to excess" or a surfeit? in Latin? Ex abudante abudante? Please correct me if I am wrong. 16:03, 27 Februarii 2010 (UTC)

Ex abuntia ad abuntiam. Note that classicist tend to remove the "ad", thus you would see more often as "Ex abuntia abuntiam".--Jondel 05:29, 1 Martii 2010 (UTC)
No, I don't think you'd see that at all ... chiefly because I'm not sure "abuntia" is a normal Latin word. Abundantia, maybe. 'De abundantia in abundantiam' is probably the phrase (and that wording is attested in John Calvin). It might depend on what sort of excess you mean, though.Mucius Tever 23:14, 3 Martii 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks I think the last is the phrase I was looking for. 19:30, 6 Martii 2010 (UTC)

Soft redirects[+/-]

Greetings. Is there a rule on the Latin Wiktionary against making a soft redirect from one's user page? I see you have no such template, and when I tried to do it by hand (ie. redirect my userpage to my page at meta), someone told me it's not allowed here. I'm only an occasional contributor and thought that it would be better to point people to a page I tend to check more often than my page here. Thanks, Jafeluv 17:34, 16 Maii 2010 (UTC)

There's no explicit rule, no. But then, we hardly have any new users, so I don't think the issue's particularly come up before, either. —Mucius Tever 02:31, 17 Maii 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's been used here before,[1][2] and it's a common way for people who do a lot of crosswiki work to avoid having to create userpages on every wiki they edit. I can't see why it's considered a problem here. Jafeluv 14:28, 18 Maii 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I know that. Like I said, there's no rule against it. I don't know why he would have thought it was a problem, either; I don't read much Russian and Google Translate isn't really getting his reasoning across. Anyway, he's not an admin and as a contributor he's apparently not examining the information he's been adding en masse; so he isn't bringing much weight to his advice. If you just want a soft redirect, that's fine. —Mucius Tever 23:16, 19 Maii 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Jafeluv 11:41, 20 Maii 2010 (UTC)

The name of K[+/-]

Hello. I am very sorry for not being able to speak Latin. I have a question on the name of K. Most of the books I have checked say the Latin name of K is , but Le latin sans peine (written in French) says it is kappa just like Greek. Did K have two names in Latin? Do you think it is a reliable source of information? — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 01:11, 21 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

I believe ka is the usual name. Does Le latin sans peine cite evidence for its assertion? I can see how it might be possible; perhaps, taking the opinion of someone like Isidore who wrote Omnia autem Graeca nomina qualicumque sequente vocali per K sunt scribenda, "All Greek words should be written with K, whichever vowel follows it," someone might take that to mean K was a foreign letter that thus kept its foreign name — but I've never seen that opinion held elsewhere. Neither 'kappa' nor 'cappa' appear to be in Lewis & Short (though koppa is, [8]). —Mucius Tever 05:06, 22 Februarii 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your answer. It seems to me to be a consensus here that K be read ka. — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 07:18, 25 Februarii 2011 (UTC)


Another question. I have found you use the Unicode apostrophe instead of the ASCII apostrophe ' in I’m, Rome wasn’t built in a day, and wasn’t. Is that intentional? As far as I know, only French Wiktionary uses the former, and we have an interwiki problem (see the table in my page). — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 01:11, 21 Februarii 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think there are bigger interwiki problems than apostrophe if you are looking for all pages to have the same title. I don't think many other Wiktionaries use disambiguation pages, either. The apostrophe is intentional, and there ought to be redirects from the ' versions to the ’ versions. —Mucius Tever 05:20, 22 Februarii 2011 (UTC)
We French Wiktionarians first tried to have interwiki links with different titles (such as ’ for '), but finally we have accepted the de facto same-title rule (vigorously maintained by User:Interwicket). We had no other choice, because the English version works as a pivot of interwiki links. Several other language versions rejected our solution (namely Frisian, Dutch, and Limburgish: see fr:Utilisateur:TAKASUGI Shinji#Interwikis et redirections). You have the same problem as ours. — TAKASUGI Shinji (d) 07:40, 25 Februarii 2011 (UTC)


Ahoy, I'm new here to Victionarium (not to wikis though). I'm currently trying to figure out the structure of the wiki, but all these category names with the section sign (§) in them and the fact that the category names have "Exempla" in them are confusing me, so my question is, why are a lot of the categories like this at the moment?

-CeNobiteElf 15:16, 22 Maii 2011 (UTC)
The § categories were meant to be those meta-categories that are relevant to Victionarium itself and the editing thereof (as opposed to categorization of the lemmas themselves). There are a few exceptions that have not been updated to use this convention yet—in particular, I believe Categoria:§ Exempla inflexionis came first but some editors have been using Categoria:Formulae declinationum etc. sans § instead.
'Exemplum' is one thing templates were called before namespaces had translations. (The Template: namespace was translated to 'Formula:' due to a consensus at Vicipaedia, I believe.) I seem to remember at one point trying to make 'exempla' the generic form and 'formula' specifically for those templates that took parameters or otherwise needed to be filled in (but I don't think this was ever very rigorously done, or officially instituted). —Mucius Tever 01:08, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)
Ah ok, are there any plans to actually fully update these categories and fix the structure, ie merge the categories, get rid of redundancies, etc.? Victionarium is relatively small at the moment, gonna be a bigger problem when it reaches higher number of pages and templates...
-CeNobiteElf 10:40, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)
Eventually, I'm sure. My own work here is pretty slow, due to juggling time with other projects. —Mucius Tever 22:56, 23 Maii 2011 (UTC)

Call for image filter referendum[+/-]

The Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.

Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.

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Terms of Use update[+/-]

I apologize that you are receiving this message in English. Please help translate it.


The Wikimedia Foundation is discussing changes to its Terms of Use. The discussion can be found at Talk:Terms of use. Everyone is invited to join in. Because the new version of Terms of use is not in final form, we are not able to present official translations of it. Volunteers are welcome to translate it, as German volunteers have done at m:Terms of use/de, but we ask that you note at the top that the translation is unofficial and may become outdated as the English version is changed. The translation request can be found at m:Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use 2 -- Maggie Dennis, Community Liaison 01:02, 27 Octobris 2011 (UTC)

Mobile Victionarium[+/-]

Mobile Victionarium ad androide, Google Store. Latine nondum loquitur.

Help decide about more than $10 million of Wikimedia donations in the coming year[+/-]

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As many of you are aware, the Wikimedia Board of Trustees recently initiated important changes in the way that money is being distributed within the Wikimedia movement. As part of this, a new community-led "Funds Dissemination Committee" (FDC) is currently being set up. Already in 2012-13, its recommendations will guide the decisions about the distribution of over 10 million US dollars among the Foundation, chapters and other eligible entities.

Now, seven capable, knowledgeable and trustworthy community members are sought to volunteer on the initial Funds Dissemination Committee. It is expected to take up its work in September. In addition, a community member is sought to be the Ombudsperson for the FDC process. If you are interested in joining the committee, read the call for volunteers. Nominations are planned to close on August 15.

--Anasuya Sengupta, Director of Global Learning and Grantmaking, Wikimedia Foundation 20:14, 19 Iulii 2012 (UTC)

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Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program[+/-]

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I apologize for addressing you in English. I would be grateful if you could translate this message into your language.

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.

If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)

Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)02:03, 6 Septembris 2012 (UTC)

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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out[+/-]

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As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.

The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:

  1. language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
  2. infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
  3. lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)

It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.

For further discussions please use this talk page (if you are uncomfortable writing in English you can also write in your native language there) or point me to the place where your discussion is happening so I can answer there.

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Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful[+/-]

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Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.

If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.

If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

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Proposal of a pronunciation recording tool[+/-]

Hello, Rahul21, a developer, offers to develop a pronunciation recording tool for Wiktionary, helped by Michael Dale as part of GSoC. The tool would allow to record and add audio pronunciations to Wiktionary entries while browsing them (see background discussion on Wiktionary-l). Please read and comment the proposal! Regards, Nemo 22:40, 9 Aprilis 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment on inactive administrators[+/-]

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Read this message in English / Lleer esti mensaxe n'asturianu / বাংলায় এই বার্তাটি পড়ুন / Llegiu aquest missatge en català / Læs denne besked på dansk / Lies diese Nachricht auf Deutsch / Leś cal mesag' chè in Emiliàn / Leer este mensaje en español / Lue tämä viesti suomeksi / Lire ce message en français / Ler esta mensaxe en galego / हिन्दी / Pročitajte ovu poruku na hrvatskom / Baca pesan ini dalam Bahasa Indonesia / Leggi questo messaggio in italiano / ಈ ಸಂದೇಶವನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಓದಿ / Aqra dan il-messaġġ bil-Malti / norsk (bokmål) / Lees dit bericht in het Nederlands / Przeczytaj tę wiadomość po polsku / Citiți acest mesaj în română / Прочитать это сообщение на русском / Farriintaan ku aqri Af-Soomaali / Pročitaj ovu poruku na srpskom (Прочитај ову поруку на српском) / อ่านข้อความนี้ในภาษาไทย / Прочитати це повідомлення українською мовою / Đọc thông báo bằng tiếng Việt / 使用中文阅读本信息。


There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.

We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.

All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.

Thanks, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 04:57, 24 Aprilis 2013 (UTC)

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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming[+/-]

Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.

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[en] Change to section edit links[+/-]

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.

Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.

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Tech newsletter: Subscribe to receive the next editions[+/-]

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You can also become a tech ambassador, help us write the next newsletter and tell us what to improve. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. guillom 20:52, 20 Maii 2013 (UTC)

Pywikipedia is migrating to git[+/-]

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 13:29, 23 Iulii 2013 (UTC)


Notifications inform you of new activity that affects you -- and let you take quick action.

(This message is in English, please translate as needed)


Notifications will inform users about new activity that affects them on this wiki in a unified way: for example, this new tool will let you know when you have new talk page messages, edit reverts, mentions or links -- and is designed to augment (rather than replace) the watchlist. The Wikimedia Foundation's editor engagement team developed this tool (code-named 'Echo') earlier this year, to help users contribute more productively to MediaWiki projects.

We're now getting ready to bring Notifications to almost all other Wikimedia sites, and are aiming for a 22 October deployment, as outlined in this release plan. It is important that notifications is translated for all of the languages we serve.

There are three major points of translation needed to be either done or checked:

Please let us know if you have any questions, suggestions or comments about this new tool. For more information, visit this project hub and this help page. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:53, 4 Octobris 2013 (UTC)

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Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014[+/-]

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

Pronunciation Recording[+/-]

Visual workflow draft for pronunciation recording gadget; If you have trouble watching this video here, watch it on vimeo. A more extensive/explanative version is available.

Dear Wiktionary community!

About me
My name is Rainer Rillke, and I have been volunteering at Wikimedia Commons for 3 years now, gathering experience around media files. I've been always interested in how things work and how one could improve them.
The idea
One idea that appeared last Summer was allowing the recording of small chunks of speech, uploading that to Wikimedia Commons in the background and including this into a Wiktionary entry without having the hassle doing everything by hand or installing additional software. That idea led to the foundation of MediaWiki extension PronunciationRecording during the Google Summer of Code. However, this was not completed; instead development is stale for over 5 months now.
My proposal
To make this going to work, so Wiktionary has an immediate benefit of this feature, I would like to provide the work done so far as a gadget and add some more work in regard to usability. You can see my plan at m:Grants:IEG/Finish Pronunciation Recording. And more importantly, you can give me a hand, if you are interested by writing your comments.

Thanks and kind regards --Rillke (disputatio) 17:25, 7 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)

This message was delivered based on commons:User:Rillke/gmd/prg. Translation fetched from: commons:User:Rillke/prg/en -- Rillke(q?) 17:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Using only UploadWizard for uploads[+/-]

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Hello! Sorry for writing in English. It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.

Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

All this will get done around 2014-07-03.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 13:09, 19 Iunii 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki[+/-]

Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 19 Iunii 2014 (UTC)

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IMPORTANT: Admin activity review[+/-]

Hello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was recently adopted by global community consensus (your community received a notice about the discussion). According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the new admin activity review here.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):

  1. BiT (administrator)

These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.

However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, Rschen7754 01:00, 29 Iulii 2014 (UTC)

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions[+/-]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on

-- JurgenNL (talk) 17:35, 21 Augusti 2014 (UTC)

Process ideas for software development[+/-]

’’My apologies for writing in English.’’


I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 22:15, 21 Augusti 2014 (UTC)

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Spellings with i instead of j[+/-]

Some people seem to use or to have used dated spellings with i (e.g. [nomen] adiectivum, coniunctio, interiectio, Iaponia) instead of their modern variants with j (i.e. [nomen] adjectivum, conjunctio, interjectio, Japonia). I suggest that these dated spellings get changed to their modern variants. Reasons:

  • It's easier to prounce a word correctly, if it is written correctly, and it's less iritating to write it with j (e.g. adjective, Adjektiv etc. in modern languages are spelled with j).
  • One also doesn't use u for v anymore (e.g. aduerbium [like Diego Collado used it around 1630 in his books about the Japanese language where he also used Iaponia] instead of adverbium).

Any objections? - 18:37, 8 Novembris 2014 (UTC)

Global AbuseFilter[+/-]


AbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki,, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.


PiRSquared17, Glaisher

— 17:34, 14 Novembris 2014 (UTC)

Pywikibot compat will no longer be supported - Please migrate to pywikibot core[+/-]

Sorry for English, I hope someone translates this.
Pywikibot (then "Pywikipediabot") was started back in 2002. In 2007 a new branch (formerly known as "rewrite", now called "core") was started from scratch using the MediaWiki API. The developers of Pywikibot have decided to stop supporting the compat version of Pywikibot due to bad performance and architectural errors that make it hard to update, compared to core. If you are using pywikibot compat it is likely your code will break due to upcoming MediaWiki API changes (e.g. T101524). It is highly recommended you migrate to the core framework. There is a migration guide, and please contact us if you have any problem.

There is an upcoming MediaWiki API breaking change that compat will not be updated for. If your bot's name is in this list, your bot will most likely break.

Thank you,
The Pywikibot development team, 19:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


22:01, 19 Iunii 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images[+/-]

The thumbnail of this gif is of really bad quality.
How a PNG thumb of this GIF would look like

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)

This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 05:08, 24 Iulii 2015 (UTC)

What does a Healthy Community look like to you?[+/-]

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The Community Engagement department at the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a new learning campaign. The WMF wants to record community impressions about what makes a healthy online community. Share your views and/or create a drawing and take a chance to win a Wikimania 2016 scholarship! Join the WMF as we begin a conversation about Community Health. Contribute a drawing or answer the questions on the campaign's page.

Why get involved?[+/-]

The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
Share your views on this matter that affects us all!
We invite everyone to take part in this learning campaign. Wikimedia Foundation will distribute one Wikimania Scholarship 2016 among those participants who are eligible.

More information[+/-]

Happy editing!

MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 01:15, 1 Augusti 2015 (UTC)

Introducing the Wikimedia public policy site[+/-]

Hi all,

We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission.

Visit the public policy portal:

Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog.


Yana and Stephen (Talk) 18:12, 2 Septembris 2015 (UTC)

(Sent with the Global message delivery system)

Reimagining WMF grants report[+/-]

(My apologies for using English here, please help translate if you are able.)

Last month, we asked for community feedback on a proposal to change the structure of WMF grant programs. Thanks to the 200+ people who participated! A report on what we learned and changed based on this consultation is now available.

Come read about the findings and next steps as WMF’s Community Resources team begins to implement changes based on your feedback. Your questions and comments are welcome on the outcomes discussion page.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 16:56, 28 Septembris 2015 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey[+/-]

Community Tech Team via MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 21:58, 9 Novembris 2015 (UTC)

Wikimania 2016 scholarships ambassadors needed[+/-]

Hello! Wikimania 2016 scholarships will soon be open; by the end of the week we'll form the committee and we need your help, see Scholarship committee for details.

If you want to carefully review nearly a thousand applications in January, you might be a perfect committee member. Otherwise, you can volunteer as "ambassador": you will observe all the committee activities, ensure that people from your language or project manage to apply for a scholarship, translate scholarship applications written in your language to English and so on. Ambassadors are allowed to ask for a scholarship, unlike committee members.

Wikimania 2016 scholarships subteam 10:47, 10 Novembris 2015 (UTC)

Harassment consultation[+/-]

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The Community Advocacy team the Wikimedia Foundation has opened a consultation on the topic of harassment on Meta. The consultation period is intended to run for one month from today, November 16, and end on December 17. Please share your thoughts there on harassment-related issues facing our communities and potential solutions. (Note: this consultation is not intended to evaluate specific cases of harassment, but rather to discuss the problem of harassment itself.)

Regards, Community Advocacy, Wikimedia Foundation

Your input requested on the proposed #FreeBassel banner campaign[+/-]

This is a message regarding the proposed 2015 Free Bassel banner. Translations are available.

Hi everyone,

This is to inform all Wikimedia contributors that a straw poll seeking your involvement has just been started on Meta-Wiki.

As some of your might be aware, a small group of Wikimedia volunteers have proposed a banner campaign informing Wikipedia readers about the urgent situation of our fellow Wikipedian, open source software developer and Creative Commons activist, Bassel Khartabil. An exemplary banner and an explanatory page have now been prepared, and translated into about half a dozen languages by volunteer translators.

We are seeking your involvement to decide if the global Wikimedia community approves starting a banner campaign asking Wikipedia readers to call on the Syrian government to release Bassel from prison. We understand that a campaign like this would be unprecedented in Wikipedia's history, which is why we're seeking the widest possible consensus among the community.

Given Bassel's urgent situation and the resulting tight schedule, we ask everyone to get involved with the poll and the discussion to the widest possible extent, and to promote it among your communities as soon as possible.

(Apologies for writing in English; please kindly translate this message into your own language.)

Thank you for your participation!

Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 21:47, 25 November 2015 (UTC) • TranslateGet help

Community Wishlist Survey[+/-]

MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 14:38, 1 Decembris 2015 (UTC)

Get involved in Wikipedia 15![+/-]

This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation. Translations are available.

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As many of you know, January 15 is Wikipedia’s 15th Birthday!

People around the world are getting involved in the celebration and have started adding their events on Meta Page. While we are celebrating Wikipedia's birthday, we hope that all projects and affiliates will be able to utilize this celebration to raise awareness of our community's efforts.

Haven’t started planning? Don’t worry, there’s lots of ways to get involved. Here are some ideas:

Everything is linked on the Wikipedia 15 Meta page. You’ll find a set of ten data visualization works that you can show at your events, and a list of all the Wikipedia 15 logos that community members have already designed.

If you have any questions, please contact Zachary McCune or Joe Sutherland.

Thanks and Happy nearly Wikipedia 15!
-The Wikimedia Foundation Communications team

Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery, 20:58, 18 Decembris 2015 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageAuxilium

Get involved in Wikipedia 15![+/-]

This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation. Translations are available.

International-Space-Station wordmark blue.svg

As many of you know, January 15 is Wikipedia’s 15th Birthday!

People around the world are getting involved in the celebration and have started adding their events on Meta Page. While we are celebrating Wikipedia's birthday, we hope that all projects and affiliates will be able to utilize this celebration to raise awareness of our community's efforts.

Haven’t started planning? Don’t worry, there’s lots of ways to get involved. Here are some ideas:

Everything is linked on the Wikipedia 15 Meta page. You’ll find a set of ten data visualization works that you can show at your events, and a list of all the Wikipedia 15 logos that community members have already designed.

If you have any questions, please contact Zachary McCune or Joe Sutherland.

Thanks and Happy nearly Wikipedia 15!
-The Wikimedia Foundation Communications team

Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery, 21:58, 18 Decembris 2015 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageAuxilium

Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon![+/-]

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A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:

Patrick Earley (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 01:49, 5 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)

2016 WMF Strategy consultation[+/-]

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Hello, all.

The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has launched a consultation to help create and prioritize WMF strategy beginning July 2016 and for the 12 to 24 months thereafter. This consultation will be open, on Meta, from 18 January to 26 February, after which the Foundation will also use these ideas to help inform its Annual Plan. (More on our timeline can be found on that Meta page.)

Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) at the Meta discussion, 2016 Strategy/Community consultation.

Apologies for English, where this is posted on a non-English project. We thought it was more important to get the consultation translated as much as possible, and good headway has been made there in some languages. There is still much to do, however! We created m:2016 Strategy/Translations to try to help coordinate what needs translation and what progress is being made. :)

If you have questions, please reach out to me on my talk page or on the strategy consultation's talk page or by email to

I hope you'll join us! Maggie Dennis via MediaWiki message delivery (disputatio) 19:07, 18 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)

Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants[+/-]

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Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 17:47, 31 Martii 2016 (UTC)

Server switch 2016[+/-]

The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its newest data center in Dallas. This will make sure Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to conduct a planned test. This test will show whether they can reliably switch from one data center to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic to the new data center on Tuesday, 19 April.
On Thursday, 21 April, they will switch back to the primary data center.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop during those two switches. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

  • You will not be able to edit for approximately 15 to 30 minutes on Tuesday, 19 April and Thursday, 21 April, starting at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT).

If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

  • Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped.

Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.

  • There will be a code freeze for the week of 18 April.

No non-essential code deployments will take place.

This test was originally planned to take place on March 22. April 19th and 21st are the new dates. You can read the schedule at They will post any changes on that schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:07, 17 Aprilis 2016 (UTC)